PHILADELPHIA, April 3, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Studies have shown that years of smoking shortens the lifespan of the smoker from 1 to 7 years. Recent analysis of the age of death in Norway and Denmark for gays who are legally married suggests that engaging in homosexual behavior reduces lifespan by 24 years!
So reported Drs. Paul and Kirk Cameron at the annual convention of the Eastern Psychological Association on March 23.
"What justification is there for condemning smoking and endorsing homosexuality?" asked Dr. Paul Cameron, of the Family Research Institute, a Colorado-based think tank. "Today, all across the Western world, school children are being taught the acceptability of homosexuality and the wrongness of smoking.
According to the Cameron research, married gays and lesbians lived 24 fewer years than their conventionally married counterparts.
In Denmark, the country with the longest history of gay marriage, for 1990-2002, married heterosexual men died at a median age of 74yrs., while the 561 partnered gays died at an average age of 51.
In Norway, married heterosexual men died at an average age of 77 and the 31 gays at 52 yrs. In Denmark, married women died at an average age of 78 yrs. compared to 56 yrs. for the 91 lesbians. In Norway, women married to men died at an average age of 81. v. 56 for the 6 lesbians.
"The consistency of reduced lifespan for those engaging in homosexuality is significant," said Dr. Cameron. "The same pattern of early death turned up whether we looked at obituaries in the U.S. or deaths in marriage. Given the greatly reduced lifespan for homosexuals, school children should be strongly and consistently warned about the dangers of homosexuality even more so than smoking. Those school districts which are introducing pro-gay curricula need to rethink their priorities."
Paul Cameron, Ph.D. & Kirk Cameron, Ph.D., presented "Federal Distortion of The Homosexual Footprint." Paul Cameron, a reviewer for the British Medical Journal, the Canadian Medical Association Journal, and the Postgraduate Medical Journal, has published over 40 scientific articles on homosexuality. The EPA, is the oldest regional Psychological Association in the United States. At its Philadelphia convention members presented the latest advances in scientific work to colleagues.
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27 comments:
Erase all of the other comments you want, but it doesn't change the fact that you are a closet homosexual. I ask again...does your wife know? Or maybe you don't have a wife. Do your friends know? God knows that you publish hatred on this blog. See you in hell, sonny.
Judge not lest ye be judged.
Southern Attitude, this has nothing to do with the topic.
Homosexuals are getting killed due to the very lifestyle they are defending; not anything that Christian people as a whole are doing. It is not hatred to report the truth. In other words, I am only pointing out the problem; I'm not the cause of the problem.
Can't you see that there are inherent problems with the homosexual lifestyle itself? Even if homosexuals and their allies were successful in eliminating every single opposition to homosexuality on the planet, that still wouldn't solve the inherent problems with homosexuality itself. The problems with bad health and lower lifespan would still be there no matter how much money is devoted into trying to make it safer, so you guys might as well give up!
"Southern Attitude said... Erase all of the other comments you want, but it doesn't change the fact that you are a closet homosexual."
Congratulations! I think you've hit the nail directly on the head. Studies show that the vast majority of gay bashers are closeted homosexuals themselves.
Plus, let's be real honest here, what straight man is going to choose a cartoon character who looks like a drag queen as his online persona?
What's up with your obsession with gays? Is your mind just full of tanned, buff young guys having unprotected butt sex? Is that stirring sinful urges in your burning loins?
Jesus talked about a lot of stuff -- loving your enemies, feeding and clothing the poor, being a peacemaker, all that stuff. He didn't say anything about
"blessed are the gay-bashers for they shall inherit my divine Liza Minelli tape collection."
Jem--
Your 'expert' research is a complete fraud. His research wasn't any where unbiased or even remotely scientific. It's just anti-gay rhetoric.
I quote from a scientist's rebuttal:
"I cannot find any information on sampling, the sources used, methodology of the study, or the statistical methods from which the conclusions were drawn"
"I don't know about the editorial stance or about the editorial board of Psychological Reports, but one thing is certain, none of his papers have any scientific merit.
I searched other databases - Ovid Medline, Science Direct and the British Library. I got nowhere.
Next, I had to investigate the primary sources themselves -- Paul Cameron and the Family Research Institute.
Surprise, surprise. It is a flagrantly anti-gay organisation"
""A Cameron study that has received perhaps the most attention is "The Lifespan of Homosexuals."
"It concludes that less than 2% of gay men survive to old age; that lesbians have a median age of death of 45; that gays are 116 times more apt to be murdered than straight men and twenty-four times more apt to commit suicide, etc.
"The source of this material? A comparison of obituaries from gay newspapers with a sample from regular newspapers, a method that would be laughed at by any reputable scholar.
"Obituaries in gay papers do not accurately portray deaths in the gay population as a whole.
"They are not meant to provide a public record of deaths of all gays but to allow members of the urban gay community to express mourning for their peers, particularly those whose lives have been cut short by illness or accident.
"Gays who die outside these communities or who die of natural causes are much less likely to be written up in a gay paper."
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"The fact remains though that six psychologists complained to the APA about his sloppy methods, and an official investigation was launched in early 1982."
There's more but I think I've made my point. This man's science is nothing but pure and undadultreated B.S.
The APA will only tell you what you want to hear, not what is really happening. It is true that gays have a lower lifespan compared to the average population. That's not gay bashing, that the truth.
That's the funniest thing. You're given a direct quote from a reputibable source, and instead of verifying it you simply cover your ears and go "LA LA LA I'M NOT LISTENING".
and your second part "It is true that gays have a lower lifespan compared to the average population."
Could you site your sources please? and if they come into question, back them up?
Or is it just easier for you to stick with your tunnel vision on this matter?
He mentioned nothing about the website where this rebuttal is; so I have no way of checking it.
If you want to put your head in the sand and believe that the information isn't true, then go on ahead.
So how did you all find out about my blog?
"bury my head in the sand and believe it's not true"? That's quite funny, as I just claimed you are doing the same thing.
I'll give you points for him failing to give you the source. HOWEVER, this is the internet, and I bet real money you could find it without too much trouble.
Why does this particular lifestyle bother you so? how does it infringe on your marriage or your parents? I simply do not look at my parens and say "Gee, their marriage of 50 years means so much less now that homosexuals get equal treatment under the Constitution of the United States of America." I don't look at my wife and think "Damn, My marriage means so much less when I look at her now, knowing that other people can get married too." I just don't understand the vehemence to it.
and how did I find your blog? It's the internet, you can find anything.
Why does the homosexual lifestyle bother me? Because unlike other immoral lifestyles, homosexuals tend to force acceptance on other people and religious organizations.
Homosexuals use the court systems and government officials to pass laws that undermine freedom of speech and freedom of religion rights. For example, in the UK, a law was passed that required all adoption agencies, including religious ones, to accept homosexuals for adopting children. The politicians that passed this law refused to put in religious exemptions.
If all that homosexuals wanted was to be left alone and be protected from being harmed, I have no problem with that. In fact, you don't even need gay specific laws in order to do that. But because they attempt to force their acceptance on people and religious organizations, this is why I have a special problem with the homosexual movement.
I'll give you points on the religious groups being allowed to discriminate. I do not agree with it, but they are private organizations and should be allowed to do so until soceity as a whole accepts it.
Now, you said "you don't even need gay specific laws in order to do that" referring to equal treatment under the law. In a perfect world where "All men are created equal" holds up, this would be true. But, at least in the case of America, we have learned that all men are created equal, but need laws to help prove to others that they are. Civil War? Civil Rights movment, Women's Sufferage clearly prove that it was necessary. as is the need to have rights to put homosexuals on equal standing with the rest of their brethren.
THen there's your belief that it's an immoral lifestyle. This is simply an opinion you are trying to push off as fact, and it really cannot be argued.
Why do you not agree with religious organizations being allowed to accept only people who wish to live in accordance to their teachings? At least you are correct in saying that these are private organizations and that they should have the right to accept or not accept anyone.
This is one area where homosexuals are wanting super rights because nobody else has universal rights to join any organization that they please. I don't, you don't and most other people don't. For example, a friend of mine wanted to join the Ukrainian Association. He was denied membership on the grounds that he is not Ukrainian. A Christian organization should not have to accept homosexuals, or anybody else for that matter, that does not conform to the religious teachings of the Christian organization and other religious organizations.
As for civil rights laws, homosexuals don't need them. Many of them make more money than the rest of the population and have the government and the courts pretty much on their side. Such laws are just being used to harass the religious community.
As for me calling homosexuality immoral, that is the case because it is immoral according to Christian teaching. If you find nothing wrong with it, that is your business. But that belief should not be imposed on Christians.
you talk of imposing beliefs onto you, when you don't even notice that you yourself is imposing your belief onto them.
the hard truth is they are discriminated against in the civil world, and like the civil rights movements proved, need laws to help elevate them to the EQUAL status they deserve.
I had more time to think upon my first comments on the private organizations being allowed to deny membership. I still think they should, but I'll back up my "Societal pressures" by referring to a Groucho Marx Quote: "I'd never join a club that would have me as a member". He was Jewish, and at the time, many clubs would now allow Jews to join, because they were Jewish. Nowadays, that seems silly and I think there is no such official club in the world... well save the KKK and Neo-Nazi groups, but that is what I referred to as Societal Pressures.
Christianity itself has changed over the 2 millenia of its existance. It just takes longer because it's old. If it didn't change, Catholicism would still be the only Christian Religion, Mass would still be In Latin, and People would not be allowed to sing in church, and so on.
He mentioned nothing about the website where this rebuttal is; so I have no way of checking it.
There's a very detailed rebuttal here:
http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,018.htm
There's a much shorter falsification here, which shows that if you accept Cameron's numbers, then more than 100% of Americans who are murdered are gay:
http://freestudents.blogspot.com/2007/04/magic-math-and-murder.html
It is true that gays have a lower lifespan compared to the average population.
This assertion always seems to track back to Cameron's research, which just can't be true. It is logically impossible for the number of murdered gay Americans to be larger than the total number of murdered Americans. Likewise, it's highly unlikely that the vast majority of car accident victims are gay (which is another result of Cameron's numbers) - you'd think an anomaly like that would have been noticed if it were true.
There are other studies that prove that homosexual lifespan is lower than the rest of the population. But you don't have to look at studies. Just ask Elton John who lost over 60 of his friends to AIDS.
Other studies? Please, show them, otherwise you're just talking out of the side of your mouth.
and Yes, the old hat "AIDS is a gay disease"
Sorry to inform you, that's just not true anymore. Hasn't been since the late 80s.
All you have to do is look at Africa and see this to be true.
Is it really THAT hard to admit that your position, from a scientific, secular position is hard to defend?
The APA the supposedly "reputable source" has accepted political correctness more than what is scientifically correct.
I can quote other sources, but that would be a waste of time since you will dismiss them all.
I'm interested in knowing who you all are. You all seem to have become blog members only recently.
I can quote other sources, but that would be a waste of time since you will dismiss them all.
I sincerely doubt that, otherwise you would have done so. You'll notice that I didn't "dismiss" your original post, I linked to careful numerical analyses of the methodologies and the results of this study, showing that both are nonsensical. I would never blindly dismiss any source you quoted - I'm way too obsessed with mathematics and statistics to do that.
Satan is drawing you deeper into his web of lies, making you lie to cover up your previous lies.
I'm interested in knowing who you all are. You all seem to have become blog members only recently.
The Lord works in mysterious ways. Perhaps I was inspired to stumble across your blog at this time to help you in this moment of weakness when your pride is leading you to fall into sin.
I can quote other sources, but that would be a waste of time since you will dismiss them all.
That's a fascinating comment, as you have done and will do the same with our sources.
It's boiling down now to you simply believing what you want to believe, and no amout of "proof" from the opposite side of this debate is going to sway you. That's sad really, if you close your mind off to proof because you don't want to believe it.
Well, it's obvious that most of you became blog members just to answer my particular post. Which websites did you find out about me? Just curious.
it's obvious? how so? and I've noticed you haven't responded to at least my last 3 questions.
Well, it's obvious that most of you became blog members just to answer my particular post.
This statement makes no sense. Your blog doesn't have "members" - it's open to anyone at all, and is indexed at all public search engines. If you mean being a member of Blogger, I've been one for more than three years now.
At least I use my real name. You've only been around for a month and you use a pseudonym. Who are you and where did you come from?
Finally, why does it matter where an of us "came from"? The Commandments forbid bearing false witness, not just bearing false witness to people who you have already met.
Alex, while you have been here for some time, the others have not. It's obvious that they came from somewhere else and decided to be a blogger just to post here. I wonder why this particular thread has attracted so much attention while the others have not?
What's up with your obsession with gays?
Hollywood Jablome must every day be worried that the members of Amnesty International have their minds erotically filled with the sight of men being tortured. After all, they seem to be "obsessed" with it. Ergo, they have their own sinful urges to commit the crimes they speak out about.
I believe his/her/it's name is Heywood, not Hollywood,
and second, your argument doesn't hold well because you are using the analogy of serious crimes against humanity versus sexual nature.
One is a crime, the other isn't.
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